Comments on: Intimidation, Accommodation, and Creation

By: Freeware Gospel

Freeware Gospel — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:17:21 +0000

Fellow witch hunter here,

Jesus took Genesis to be a literal Creation story of at least Adam and Eve (Mark 10:5).

If He took it to be a literal narrative rather than pure Hebrew poetry, I’ll take his word for it (He was there and all-Jn 1:1)

ps-
Writer of Hebrews also took it to be literal (mentions by name Cain and Able-Ch. 11).

By: Dave James

Dave James — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:06:59 +0000

It is no small thing and tt makes a huge difference for several reasons – but I’ll cite just two:

1. Jesus said, “If you believed Moses, you would believe me” (John 5:46) – so it wasn’t a small thing to Jesus.

2. You say we should be out witnessing instead – but if Genesis 1-11 are not historical, we have nothing to say. If Genesis 1-2 is indeterminably long, then there couldn’t have been an original Adam and Eve from whom the human race descended, which means that we did not inherit a sin nature, which means that we do not truly need redemption, which means that the cross has no significance, which means that there is no Gospel – good news – to share with anyone.

Dave

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:22:34 +0000

You’re right Dave, it matters very much.

Science, it has been said, is observation. We have a reliable observer – God himself. He gave us the written word and told us in no uncertain terms what happened. To believe and teach something else is to call God a liar.

That is a rather big deal.

Chris

By: clearly

clearly — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:19:45 +0000

Andrew, It’s been a while man, I trust you are well.

You wrote, “You can say it matters in the long scheme of things, but you know it doesnt. Whether God created in 7, 3, or eleventy billion days, the fact is, he would probably prefer you to be out witnessing rather than wasting time.”

I do believe it matters — if the earth is millions of years old and if it came to be through a process of evolution, then death exists before the fall. This contradicts Genesis and Romans 5 — big problems for the Bible.

I realize that creation is not repeatable and observable, which is why my ultimate reason for believing in a literal six day creation is because God said that’s how He did it.

You wrote, “What makes the Bible more inspired than D.L. Moody?” As your teacher, Dr. Meyer, taught us regarding 2 Timothy 3:16, “God breathed out words, not people.” Inspiration relates to words, not to people. God used men to author inspired, or God-breathed words.

As far as witnessing goes, I sure hope I have opportunity when I’m out later today! Praying to that end at least:) Thanks for the reminder…

By: Andrew Zajac

Andrew Zajac — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:59:59 +0000

You all waste so much time debating and discussing such small things just because you like to bicker. You can say it matters in the long scheme of things, but you know it doesnt. Whether God created in 7, 3, or eleventy billion days, the fact is, he would probably prefer you to be out witnessing rather than wasting time. And….creation is not repeatable and observable. If you believe in creation, you can make it repeatable and observable, just like if you believe in evolution.
And, the Bible is not inerrant. Inspired, well thats debatable. What makes David more inspired than D.L. Moody? What makes John more inspired than Dave Marriot? Maybe we should have another council of Nicea so we can all remember that the Bible was compiled, revised, re-arranged, and edited by men to conform to religious beliefs.