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NT Wright on Hell

Dan Phillips has an excellent post this morning on NT Wright and his view of hell and eternal judgment.

For several years now, many in the Emerging Church have been looking to Bishop Wright to draw up some trickery for their Emerging-play-book.

Some of Wrights comments about hell sound eerily similar to some of Rob Bell’s. See here and here. Is Coach Wright calling the plays in from the sidelines?


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Christ and Empire: A Different Perspective from Fuller Seminary

Kevin DeYoung, a pastor and one of the authors of Why We’re Not Emergent, highlights a book (on his new blog) entitled Christ and Caesar: The Gospel and the Roman Empire in the Writings of Paul and Luke.

Ironically, the author is a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (where Rob Bell earned his M-Div), but takes a different view than Rob Bell and N.T. Wright on this important issue. DeYoung cites Seyoon Kim, 

Thus, there is no anti-imperial intent to be ascertained in the Pauline Epistles. All attempts to interpret them as containing such an intent, as shown above, are imposing an anti-imperial reading on the epistles based merely on superficial parallelism of terms between Paul’s gospel preaching and the Roman imperial ideology, while the texts themselves clearly use those terms to express other concerns. 

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More Apostasy From Emerging/Emergent

In 2003, Steve Chalke wrote:

God affirms the original goodness of humankind

In 2004, Brian McLaren created his own tulip theology, the “T” representing “Triune Love,” as opposed to “Total Depravity.” One’s view of Calvinism is really not the issue here; in his Generous Orthodoxy he created a new Tulip because he believes that the evangelical church is overemphasizing sin and judgment. What world is he living in?

In 2005, Rob Bell weighed in with:

God has an incredibly high view of people. God believes that people are capable of amazing things.

When I first read the above works, I believed that these men were denying serious doctrines of the faith. My detractors argued that those within Emerging/Emergent were somehow rephrasing biblical terms in order to reach a generation that isn’t accustomed to theological jargon. If you missed it then, get it now: the apostasy is becoming much more explicit and “in your face.” And this is only the beginning.

Just this week, Tony Jones has announced that he does not believe in original sin. He writes,

Since then [college years], I’ve become more uncomfortable with the notion that people are inherently bad, prideful, etc. I don’t deny the reality of sin. But I do doubt that human beings are depraved from birth.

So, without quoting the Bible, what do you think? Are human beings predisposed to good or evil?

I don’t know which bothers me more – that he doubts we are born sinful or that he doesn’t want people to answer using the Bible. I think the latter problem explains the former. If you reject the Bible as the only authority, then of course it’s irrelevant to such a discussion! 

If anyone wondered what Jones meant by “original sin,” he actually defines it for us in a later post; he writes,

Original sin is a Christian doctrine that says that everyone is born sinful. This means that they are born with a built-in urge to do bad things and to disobey God.

Original sin is not just this inherited spiritual disease or defect in human nature; it’s also the ‘condemnation’ that goes with that fault.

I’ll stand with Jeremiah that the heart is both deceitful and desperately wicked…


Rob Bell at the Seeds of Compassion Event

Thanks to Chris at A Little Leaven for making these videos available for viewing. Ken Silva also has the transcripts available on his page via Rick Freuh. Thanks guys for both your perspectives and for doing some leg-work here. Read the rest of this entry »


This is the best blog post I have ever read…

Tim Challies writes the best paragraph on Emerging/Emergent that I have ever read.

Kudos, Tim.

Allow me to add to Tim’s “you may be emergent if” list.

1. You love Jesus but hate what Paul has done with his teachings.

2. You pray the rosary even if you aren’t a Catholic.

3. You listen to Bruce Springsteen to receive sacramental grace.

4. You have a coexist bumper sticker on your fuel efficient, foreign vehicle.

5. You use phrases like “platonic dualism” with your church members. Actually, you don’t believe in church membership; you just choose to live in covenant community.


This Just In: Child Abuser on the Run

Breaking news out of Newberry Springs, CA:

As of 4 PM, police are still seeking yet another father suspected of child abuse; the unidentified suspect is currently fleeing from authorities. He was last seen on I-15 heading toward Barstow in a white Ford Bronco. The son, however, has yet to be formally identified, but early reports indicate that this morning, some men on retreat found the son alone, starving in the desert. Investigators say that the 33 year old hadn’t eaten anything for 40 days.

Stay with newscasters here at SeeingClearly for more information on this story.

**This post is a satirical parody only**


Emerging Soteriology on WOTM Radio

So yesterday, I read this over at Christian Research Network and noticed that Doug Pagitt had been on the Way of the Master Radio program. To make a long story short, I sent Todd Friel a paper I recently wrote on emerging/emergent soteriology. He read my email and used some of the content on the last 10 minutes or so of the program. If you are interested, you can listen here.